Friday, March 21, 2014

Climate of Denial, Dishonesty or Pure Stupidity?

As predictable as clock work, my "favorite" Climate Denial and Tea Swilling Troll, Nemo crawled out from his 
bridge to offer his "Thoughts". Is it denial, dishonesty or pure stupidity? You decide.
Blogger Nemo said...
Holding back reality? Have you been outside this year? (sorry, I couldn't resist. We all know that weather does not equal climate unless it confirms the religion of Mann)

Second, you censored someone else? I thought what we had was something special. I'd write something pithy and you would respond in the only way you could given your limited abilities. And now I catch you censoring someone else? It really hurts sean, it really hurts. Heh.
3/20/14, 6:16 PM
Blogger Nemo said...
And speaking of reality, did ya see that the APS (American Physical Society) is jumping ship on Mann made warming? No? Look here. But what would "a leading voice for physics and an authoritative source of physics information for the advancement of physics and the benefit of humanity" know about reality, eah? Heh.
3/20/14, 6:30 PM
Blogger Sean Cranley said...
Well Nemo, I didn't realize that eastern North America constituted the entire globe. Have you looked what the winter has been like in the American West? How about Alaska? Siberia?

Oh and quick click on your link got me: "Sorry, the page you were looking for in this blog does not exist."
3/21/14, 2:34 PM
Blogger Sean Cranley said...
So I did your homework for you, AGAIN. And look what I found, More Nemo-tistical Non-sense, AGAIN!

The APS is NOT jumping ship on anthropogenic climate change. They are in the routine process of reviewing their statement, which they do for ALL their statements every 5 years!

This is yet another example of why you are either STUPID or DISHONEST and such an incredible waste of time! IDIOT!

This is exactly the kind of bullshit I was referring to when I said: "This is the problem I have observed repeatedly with the anti-science folks. They cobble together and misinterpret a series of facts in a vain attempt to stick their finger in the dike holding back reality."

From The APS Website:
The American Physical Society formally reviews its statements every five years. In accordance with that process, the APS Panel on Public Affairs (POPA) formed a Subcommittee to review its Climate Change Statement. The members of the Subcommittee are: Steven Koonin (chair), Phillip Coyle, Scott Kemp, Tim Meyer, Robert Rosner and Susan Seestrom. The Charge to the Subcommittee was approved by POPA and the APS Executive Board and is included in the Supporting Documents links.
As part of the POPA-approved process, on January 8, 2014 the Subcommittee convened a workshop with six climate experts. The Subcommittee used that meeting to delve more deeply into aspects of the IPCC consensus view of the physical basis of climate science. In doing so, it hoped to illuminate for itself, for the APS membership, and for the broader public both the certainties and boundaries of current climate science understanding. The framing document, expert bios, and the complete transcript for the workshop are included in the Supporting Documents links.
The workshop was the first step in a deliberative process. As a membership organization of over 50,000 physicists, APS adheres to rigorous scientific standards in developing all its statements. If the Subcommittee recommends updating the existing APS Climate Change Statement, then, consistent with APS by-laws, all APS members will be given an opportunity to review the statement and provide input during a comment period.
3/21/14, 2:51 PM


Sean Cranley said...

Oh and by the way, the APS has not issued a new statement yet either as part of this process.

You're an idiot, but you're a useful idiot in a way, because I'm going to use your mindless and error filled posting on this as an example, which I'm going to spread all over facebook to underscore my point about the "mentality" of people like you who insist on falling into this state of denial and fight to hold back reality with earplugs made of dung firmly inserted. Thank you.

Nemo said...

I'm going to assume that the APS values their reputation more than their grant money (unlike Mann and the other climate change pharisees) and will change their Mann Made Global Warming statement. If they do, will you also deny your faith in this cult? My guess is no. After all sean, you continue to worship at the alter of Mann after almost 2 decades without any statical increase in global temperatures.

Sorry about the broken link. Blogger seems to have changed the way they do imported HTML anchors. I'd give you a updated link, but you seem to have it in hand, sort of. It helps to look a little deeper into reviews to see what is going on:

The American Physical Society (APS) has signalled a dramatic turnabout in its position on "climate change" by appointing climate skeptics to its panel on public affairs (POPA).

You lose (again, heh.)

Sean Cranley said...

I'll just wait to see what they actually say.

In the mean time I looked up the following on the googles:

The American Physical Society (APS) has signalled a dramatic turnabout in its position on "climate change" by appointing climate skeptics to its panel on public affairs (POPA).

All I found was a bunch whacko blogs that people with zero credibility, like you go to confirm their stupidity.

Nemo said...

Did ya see where green guru and geophysicist James Lovelock, considered one of the pioneering scientists of the 20th century, has shaken the Mann cult. No?


Sean Cranley said...

Nice try . . . I guess. but here is a more recent (3/27/14) article than your out of context reference on your Mr. Lovelock, posted on HIS blog:

EXCERPT: Climate change has not always been caused by us; there appear to have been several large shifts before the human species existed. However, if the current global warming is anthropogenic (as Lovelock still firmly believes), human numbers play a critical role in the process.

EXCERPT: He remains open to the possibilities of geo-engineering, deliberately changing the oceans, air or land surface of the planet with the aim of countering global warming, but questions whether we understand the climate well enough to manage the large risks that geo-engineering involves. “We are not clever enough to handle either the earth or ourselves,” he says.

EXCERPT: Not for a moment has he become a “sceptical environmentalist”; the scientific evidence points unmistakably in the direction of anthropogenic climate change.

Nemo said...

You got the date wrong on the James Lovelock blog post. As any good scientist would in the face of overwhelming evidence, he has since updated his views. Smart man. The result is that you have strengthened my case, thanks sean! Heh.

And yet another prominent scientist dissents! Fmr. NASA scientist Dr. Les Woodcock ‘Laughs’ at Mann Made Global Warming – ‘Global warming is nonsense’ Top Prof. declares

That one might actually put a dent in your religious armor.

Sean Cranley said...

Oops, I messed up it was 2013 and not 2014. T\he difference between me and you is that I'm able to admit that. It doesn't alter the fact that the man believes in anthropogenic climate change.

Below is the snippet you latched onto from you're little bloggy thingy. He doesn't deny global warming, but merely raises doubt about the specific results

[...] James Lovelock: Take this climate matter everybody is thinking about. They all talk, they pass laws, they do things, as if they knew what was happening. I don’t think anybody really knows what’s happening. They just guess. And a whole group of them meet together and encourage each other’s guesses.

It was clipped out of a 50 minute long interview. If you really respect this man and his thoughts, you'll listen to the whole thing and glom onto one sentence that seems to back you play

The new guy you reference has this to say among other things that totally discredit him and you:

“There is no reproducible scientific evidence CO2 has significantly increased in the last 100 years.

Run along now and dig up another nutbag to hang your hat on.

Nemo said...

sean, "Oops, I messed up it was 2013 and not 2014. T\he difference between me and you is that I'm able to admit that."

Wrong again, I freely admit that you messed up. heh.

To show that scientist Dr. Les Woodcock discredits me, please define "significantly increased". That ought to be good for a few laughs.